The Betts name is a tough one to live up to. Dickey Betts is one of
rock's most enduring icons. His work with the Allman Brothers is a vital
section of the history of rock and roll. Dickey's son, Duane, has
smartly chosen to begin to carve out his own niche in the world of
rock. His current band, Backbone 69, is more reminiscent of The Jimi
Hendrix Experience and Crazy Horse (with and without Neil Young) than of
the Brothers. The band also has two other members that are offspring of
musical luminaries. Their solid drummer Alex Orbison is the son of the
legendary baritone crooner Roy
Orbison. Their frontman, guitarist/vocalist Chris Williams, is the
son of a man who is quietly one of rock's great songwriters, Jerry Lynn
Williams. Jerry has written for many rock musicians, and he is
responsible for some of Eric Clapton's strongest recent material
("Pretending," "Forever Man," and "Running On Faith" to name a
few). Bassist Damon Webb, and the energetic keyboardist James
"Unity" Fuchs round out Backbone 69.
I had the good fortune to hang out with the band at a recent Atlanta
stop. While it is a brash and enigmatic group, I was taken by the lack
of arrogance despite their direct ties to unquestioned legends- not to
mention that they're from Southern California . They were generous
hosts, and the second set of their show revealed that they have limitless
potential as an aggressive jam band (ala Gov't Mule). Unfortunately
their return trip to Atlanta was questionably canceled by the Somber
Reptile at the very last minute (the band was notified upon their arrival
by a sign on the door, rather than by a phone call or email which may
have saved them hundreds of miles of driving), but I am holding out hopes
that they will return to Atlanta soon.
Among the band's upcoming dates are a stop at the Malibu Inn in their
hometown of Malibu, California on May 26, and a performance at the Pozo
Saloon in San Louis Obispo on May 28. Duane will tour with Blue Floyd from
mid-June to mid-July, after which extensive touring of the West and
Southeast is expected from Backbone 69.
What follows is the text from an interview Duane granted me on this
recent chilly Atlanta evening.
RST - It's my understanding that you were a drummer at first, is that true?
Duane - Yeah. When I was really young I played drums for a while. My
Dad got me a few drums from The Warehouse. I played drums for about six
years, from when I was seven. I switched to guitar at around twelve or
thirteen. I've been in a few bands, but the first "real" band I was in
was with Berry Oakley and Waylon Krieger. We did a bunch of touring, and
I gained alot of good experience from that. I've been playing with them
for three or four years.
RST - You originally appeared as a guest with them?
Duane - I think the first time we played was a New Year's Eve show, I'm
not sure what year it was. It was an Oakley/Krieger Band
show, Robbie (Krieger, guitarist from the Doors, and Waylon's father) sat
in, and they got me to sit in.
RST - Do you play alot of lead guitar with OKB, or do you and Waylon switch
off?
Duane - We both play, we switch off. Alot like with this band, Backbone
69. (RST note - Duane switches solos with Chris Williams with BB69.)
RST - How did Backbone 69 come together?
Duane - Well, Alex and Chris have been together since the early
nineties. I went to school in Malibu, and I know alot of people from way
back. I had met people dating back to when I was thirteen, and I had
roots there. One time a couple of years back I was sitting in with a
friend at a gig at the Malibu Inn and I ran into Chris. We recognized
each other because Elijah Allman (son of Cher and Greg Allman) actually
had introduced us at an Allman Brothers show at Irvine Meadows. Alex had
been in Colorado, and when he came back we started jammin'. It was clear
that we had something. We started recording, and suddenly stuff started
happening and we slowly started growing. Now more stuff is happening, and we're just slowly moving forward, ya know?
RST - How much of the material do you write?
Duane - Chris and I wrote all of the stuff on the CD. He actually wrote
seven of those ten songs on the record. I have alot of songs that we
haven't even played yet. We definitely all have ideas that we'll work
on, but the stuff that we have played to this point has been Chris' and mine.
RST - Do you enjoy songwriting?
Duane - Yeah, I enjoy it almost as much as playing guitar. I'd almost
rather be remembered for a great song than a great guitar solo. I think
songwriting is if not more important, just as important as
musicianship. I try to just convey a human condition and get a point
across without being too "avant garde" about it. I try leave something
to the imagination. I don't want to be so straightforward and blatant,
but I still make an effort to offer something that people can relate
to. That's what I try to do at least, although I would admit that I'm
certainly not an experienced songwriter.
RST - Are you surprised when inspiration hits you, or do you sit down
with the intention of writing songs?
Duane - It's pretty interesting how it works. Sometimes, it's like the
spirit comes over you, you know? You don't really control it,
almost. My father tells me that you have to always practice it. Even if
you can't think of anything, you just write the first thing that comes to
your mind. If for nothing else, than just to practice writing thoughts
and feelings. It is a really good feeling when you finish a song.
RST - Aside from the obvious, who are some of your other songwriting influences?
Duane - One of my favorite songwriters is Billy Corgan. Lyrically, I
like alot of Bono's stuff. I like Bob Dylan. There's so many great
songwriters. Our stuff doesn't sound like U2, but if you examine the
lyrics closely, you can hear Bono's influence in there. I like Jeff
Buckley quite a bit too.
RST - Even though alot of people think that you have a cakewalk in the
Industry because you're the son of a rock icon, I'm sure this certainly
isn't the case. Something Waylon Krieger said once sort of hit
me, he said, "When it comes down to it, it can also be a hindrance
because people prejudice you and compare you with your old man."
Do you find this happens to you?
Duane - Not really, I don't think about that stuff. I don't want the
band to be in the shadow of who one of our Dads are. That's the last
thing I want. I also don't want to play my Dad's songs and do all that
stuff. I've done that before. I don't want people to come just to hear
us play my Dad's songs. It's only a hindrance if I let it be one. As
long as I don't care, I don't think it will hinder me at all. It's not
like it holds me back.
We don't have any free paths to success. I mean, we have
connections. I'm not gonna lie. But, people don't just hand us
everything for free. We have to work really hard for what we do. And we
wouldn't want it any other way. Everybody in the band understands
that. It's not like I ask my Dad, "hey, can you hook me up with your
agent?" Our agent is somebody that we hooked up with, not through
anybody's Dad. My Dad likes to know what's going on, but he doesn't like
hook everything up for me. He might let us play with his band, which
isn't too bad... (laughter)... but it's not like we're just "living the
silver screen", ya know?
[Ed: Their recent experience at Atlanta's Somber Reptile,
mentioned in the introduction, is indicative of this.]
RST - Speaking of The Allmans, I remember the first time I
heard you play was when you sat in with them back in '94 on the
HORDE tour, at Merriweather in Maryland, and The Mann Center in
Philly. How old were you then.
Duane - Let me see... I was... sixteen.
RST - Was it intimidating to sit in with them in front of all of those
people?
Duane - Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, it was to some extent. They * are * all
such friendly people, though. They're all there to see the Allman
Brothers and they're having a great time. My Dad just told me, "They're
your friends. It's not like they're gonna throw tomatoes at you if they
don't like you." So, I kept that in mind, and realized they're not gonna
kill me or anything.
The first time I sat in I was petrified. I actually forgot my
guitar on purpose, but my Dad made me play anyway. When something's new
you feel uncomfortable, but you just gotta do it until you get used to
it. There was one time that I was out there with them and I broke some
strings, and I was like, "I'll never sit in again." But I got over that too.
The most surreal experience was playing at Woodstock. That was
ridiculous, unbelievably surreal.
RST - Did you look out at the crowd at that gig?
Duane - The whole day was so surreal that I couldn't even get nervous. I
was in some kind of dreamland over the whole event.
RST - And you just played The Beacon with them recently?
Duane - Yeah, that was really good. I played two shows, and
sat in for one or two songs each night. I'm much more confident
now when I play, so I don't get intimidated by that crowd anymore.
RST - Did you get the nod for some solos?
Duane - Yeah, I got a huge solo on one song with The Allmans. I also got
to sit in with Gov't Mule, we had some fun, especially when we played,
"Dreams." We just did another show, The Cherry Fest, with Gov't Mule,
and they brought me up for three songs or so.
RST - I'm sure the guys in Gov't Mule have influenced you a bit?
Duane - Warren is a great songwriter, singer, and guitar player. Matt's
great., Alan.....they're all great. In the truest sense of the word,
they are phenomenal musicians. They're also nice guys and good
people. I love their music. I haven't gotten a chance to listen to
their new record yet, but I've heard some of the songs live. I like what
I've heard live. Their records sound great; I love "Dose." I like
Warren's lyrics, and his songwriting quite a bit.
RST - Warren also seems really good at working with guests on their stage.
He encourages them to offer their personality and the band gives
them plenty of space to do so.
Duane - They know a lot of people. They also know it's such good musical
energy to have people sit in who are your friends that know how to
play. It creates something else, something unique to that night. We've
had Marc Ford sit in with us at The Coach House [in San Juan Capistrano,
California] and that was fun. It's always fun to jam with people.
RST - One thing that's special about your Dad's band is the family feel
that ABB has. It even filters into their fan base. They're shows
feel more like reunions than traditional musical events.
Duane - Yes, there's a sense of community there.
RST - Are you starting to feel that with Backbone 69?
Duane - Definitely. We have a tight knit group of people in Malibu, good
people, like a tribe of people. They come and support us and we have a
big party. All kinds of crazy stuff goes on at the Malibu Inn. There is
a sense of camaraderie and brotherhood within the band and with our
people. There's a consistent feeling between everybody about what we
stand for. It's not just about how well everybody plays or anything, but
it's about how the band is doing. We concentrate on how the vibe
is the chemistry.
I like the vibe alot right now. It's really cool.
RST - Where do you see Backbone 69 headed right now?
Duane - We're going to release this CD soon. We're also planning on
doing more recording. In the meantime, we'll just play as many gigs as
possible. As long as we don't have to buy a sailboat and cross the
ocean, we'll get out and play. I want to play as much as possible, and
get our name out. We would love to hook on with a bigger act and get on
some more opening slots.
RST - And you still will do occasional gigs with Oakley/Krieger
Band?
Duane - Oh yeah, if they come up, I'd love to. I just played with Berry
up in New York in March. He's phenomenal. He's like my brother. I've
known him for a long time.
You know, you can play with as many people as you want. It's a
huge family. It's not segregated at all. It's like, "share the
love" you know? Jam with everybody. Like with the Blue Floyd thing,
Marc's played with Gov't Mule, and he goes out with Alan and Matt. Berry
plays with Blue Floyd. I'll play with Berry, and he'll play with us. I
get to sit in with Gov't Mule, Marc plays with us.
RST - Did you see Blue Floyd?
Duane - Yeah, at The Roxy in LA...it was great; Marc Ford is one of my
favorites.
**(RST note - since this interview, Duane has been inked to tour with Blue Floyd from
mid-June through mid-July this summer.)**
RST - Finally, what are some of your memories from being on the road with
The Allmans?
Duane - I grew up on tour. I pretty much went to every show from
'89-'96. I was home school, and my tutor would come on the road with
me. I have so many memories. Red Rocks is probably my favorite
place. It was always really nice to go there. They always packed 'em in
at Great Woods in Boston, those were very memorable. Atlanta was always
cool. I just remember each year, really. The HORDE Fest was
particularly fun.
It was good education for what I want to do with my career. I
think my Dad knew I would be a musician. He brought me on the road, and
I got to hear great musicians every night. I was able to see how the
business works as well. That's a big part of this, knowing how the
business works. I learned about how the road manager and accountants
play into everything. I learned about guarantees. I also saw the amount
of work the crew puts in, how their day runs and how it fits into the
band's routine. Now I know how it should all go. I know exactly how an
operation runs properly. I don't have to learn that, so I can learn
other things.
RST - Can we end with a wacky story from your Allman Brothers experiences?
Duane - One time I was sitting in with them, I was sixteen or seventeen,
and some woman threw a bra up onstage at me while I was taking a solo. I
had my eyes closed, and my Dad picked it up and put it on my guitar. So,
I still have my eyes closed, and the crowd starts going crazy, and I'm
thinkin' "oh man they really like me...(laughter)...I'm goin off!"
(more laughter) Then I opened my eyes, and I go "oh, no wonder."