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Published: 2011/11/09

Phish Tweets Out Against Scalping

Phish is taking action against scalpers selling Phish Tickets by Mail on eBay. After a fan alerted the band about PTBM being auctioned for over $400, the band responded via their Twitter account, “@youenjoyme Send an email with the info to bettyfrost@phish.com and we will 100% look into it… or if you find any other PTBM listings.” Phish has a serious anti-scalping policy which is outlined on their official homepage.

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Ray November 9, 2011, 17:15:25

What about stubhub?

Jayson Blair November 9, 2011, 18:03:09

I liked this post better when it first ran on Hidden Track.
http://www.glidemagazine.com/hiddentrack/phish-fan-gets-bands-attention-on-scalpers-using-twitter/
Most of the time a media outlet will make note when they get information directly from another outlet, or at lest acknowledge the outlet that first reported the story.

Cleeet November 9, 2011, 17:42:49

And Tickets Now

pat November 9, 2011, 18:12:29

lip service? ebay? stub hub has like 6,000 tickets.

OceDoc November 9, 2011, 18:52:58

shouldn’t we get a list out right away of which tickets are canceled so know one purchases them for face value when there already de-activated!?!? Best…OceDoc

BBFCFM November 9, 2011, 20:01:23

What do you guys think about shortening the ordering window? Everyone who would go knows within a day that the request window has opened; I missed out and wondered how many orders were placed as “backups” for people. peace, BBFCFM

aaron November 9, 2011, 20:44:53

seriously, i say occupy stubhub, that’s the biggest corporate racket ever

lala November 9, 2011, 23:55:18

Stubhub is a sister-company of Ticketmaster…go figure

check your facts November 10, 2011, 07:38:44

^ ebay owns stubhub ticketmaster owns tickets now ...go figure I say play bigger venues :)

phan4phans November 10, 2011, 08:43:33

GO BACK TO BIG CYPRESS!!! 100,000 phans and WARM WEATHER!!!

RST November 10, 2011, 09:08:44

Halloween 2010 tickets were IMPOSSIBLE. It was pretty much a private party.

purplemikepants November 10, 2011, 11:15:13

Slay those scalpers with cactus bass bombs!!! also, couldn’t mail order theoretically return today aided by modern technology? it would stop this nonsense.

Cleeet November 10, 2011, 12:07:21

I liked this post better when it first ran on Hidden Track. You’re arguing over who should get credit for first reprinting a string of tweets? No one’s gonna get a Pulitzer here either way, kids …

Esse November 10, 2011, 13:10:38

He who has the pesos has the say-so’s

heyitsmejenni_b November 10, 2011, 13:50:44

It doesn’t really apply here, but I encourage fans to report any above face value listings they see posted before ticket request period ends. My friends and I have had great success in getting those taken down on Stubhub, Ticketsnow, and other sites.

TMac November 10, 2011, 14:48:48

Anyone who sells tickets for above face value is stealing from the band and a piece of s-it. Very simple!

adks12020 November 10, 2011, 17:55:48

I’m glad they at least recognize the problem. I have never gotten tickets through the lottery. Not once in many, many attempts. I know those are limited but I also know as soon as I get the message saying no lottery that I will have to pay above face if I want to go to a show…the holiday shows especially. I long for the days of mail order. The people that really wanted to go made the effort and almost always got tickets. Not the case anymore. Btw…anyone got an extra for the 29th? Its my 30th birthday. Even the tix for the 29th are $115+

blackosprey November 10, 2011, 18:22:57

Phish Inc can only go at tickets that were sold through Phish Tickets, and their policy only addresses those tickets sold on the aftermarket. I’d bet the majority of tickets on stubhub are TM, so they really have no jurisdiction on them. And the way stub hub is set up, you don’t get information on where the tickets were aquired through.

undercontrolantelope November 11, 2011, 12:14:52

Just buy my tickets already. Geez.

PJPA November 11, 2011, 12:21:10

HAHA, yet phish inc is scalping their own tickets on stubhub. laughable at best guys.

Michael Lindbergh November 11, 2011, 15:35:57

It’s total bs trying to get tickets at ticketmaster outlet for out of town concerts I live in Chicago and the outlets here won’t sell out of state for phish! That needs to change!

jim griffin November 11, 2011, 15:49:28

GREED GREED GREED greed will take over everything you love if you let it ! it is sad eddie vedder spoke out against the ticket bastards of the world only to be shot down , and not joined by others in the industry. Grateful Dead tried it , but still had to deal with those jerk-offs. STUB-HUB, TICKETSNOW and the likes should be brought up on Federal Racketeering charges, it is called collusion , it is disgusting , and it is illegal , these people and there corporate ways are what is truly wrong with America. COME ON PHISH BREAK BAD WE NEED YOU

jim griffin November 11, 2011, 15:50:09

GREED GREED GREED greed will take over everything you love if you let it ! it is sad eddie vedder spoke out against the ticket bastards of the world only to be shot down , and not joined by others in the industry. Grateful Dead tried it , but still had to deal with those jerk-offs. STUB-HUB, TICKETSNOW and the likes should be brought up on Federal Racketeering charges, it is called collusion , it is disgusting , and it is illegal , these people and there corporate ways are what is truly wrong with America. COME ON PHISH BREAK BAD WE NEED YOU

Kevin November 11, 2011, 18:14:16

They need to just stop playing venues that ticketmaster, livenation etc have agreements with. Obviously that limits where they can play but i don’t think they would have trouble selling out the way they did for the Vermont flood relief show, they just need to become more creative with where they play if they actually care that much. Having said that, it shouldn’t have to come to that in the first place.
The problem is that TMaster in particular, as Pearl Jam has pointed out, essentially owns a monopoly on ticket distribution is this country and is so powerful that venues find it hard to not deal with them because they work efficiently and create huge profits for them by helping them sell tickets well, as well as offer other incentives.
In order to maximize speed, volume, efficiency of ticket sales for venues, Tmaster allows their online ticket sales to be highly vulnerable to ticket brokers that use completely unregulated, extreme high broadband technology akin to high frequency stock market traders,and use algorithms to achieve quicker and better access to the markets, or in this case not stocks at a better price, but tickets that they buy up before me and you even have a chance with our regular internet connections. This technology essentially needs to be regulated in order to protect the consumer. It all falls in line with theincredibly obvious collusion and potenitall anti-trust issues already surrounding ticketmaster for years and years. It’s tough for bands that don’t have huge followings and leverage to take action for fear of never making any money off of touring. But other bands need to join Pearl Jam and Springsteen. I personally think that Pearl Jam is going about it that wrong way, though. Their anti-trust case is a little wishy-washy. The problem is the absence of tech regulation and that no one has investigated the relationship between Tmaster, Livenation, and re-sale/auction sites.

jared November 15, 2011, 18:56:23

if people would stop paying these outrageous prices they would stop charging so much. face value is ridiculously priced these days already! phish and other bands need to sell more tickets themselves so we don’t have to go to ticketmaster or whoever, almost ten dollars a ticket in fees, seriously a joke!!!!

The 1% November 16, 2011, 20:35:24

All you fags sitting around policing the scaping scene need to get a life. This just in, increased demand + limited supply = higher prices.

tidbitbabe November 18, 2011, 21:27:11

Trim the fat and eliminate the middle man. Supply season ticket holders and sell event tickets at the door. A season ticket holder reselling tickets online may still bring in some high bids to those that do not want to risk arriving late but will limit brokers from running a crooked scalping game. Close the parking lots until a few hours before the event. Generate a wristband to visitors upon entering parking area necessary for the purchase of a ticket. When all the bands are sold the show is sold out and parking gates are closed. Season ticket holder should have a private parking area and you must be presant to receive a wristband. No one car can purchase 50 bands to scalp when the gates have closed. If someone leaves the lot and sells the ticket for an huge profit then so what, they miss the show and only one wrist band was exchanged. No wrist band then you don’t get back into the parking lot but can probably afford a ride home. This is different than one person (or broker) purchasing a large quantity of tickets with no intention of attending the show just waiting for the show to sell out in order to take advantage of fans and drive up rates. This is the racket that needs to be under control. It is another corporate thieving racket.

Dw-Grade B-MAPLESyrup November 20, 2011, 18:34:22

Just to be clear, the boys were paid $100,000 in 2009 by LIVENATION to re-group and tour again. Even Paige said
“At first, we as a band agreed to play the Hampton shows and a few summer dates. Trey was excited about Phish being back together and he talked us into adding dates.More dates piled up and then we were holding a Halloween festival. This was more than expected, don’t get me wrong, I Love playing. It was just more than I expected.”
I Love P-Hish, I have payed insane prices for tickets ($650- For Hampton 1st night) because my life is happier with Phish in it. To call Phish Greedy is absurd. The scalpers do malest the buyer, but i am still greatful to at least to have the chance to get in to a show. I miss the days of not worrying about getting tickets nor how much money it may cost to get down for 3 hrs.On the other hand, capitalism has given way to corruption and yes, greed. Phish has always been ahead of the curve on everything when it comes to making the fans happy, I trust that they will resolve this issue and after the contract with LIVENATION is up, they will again surprise us and find a different way for fans to access the music.

kye November 25, 2011, 18:38:08

Cmon Phish cant get around ticket master. They would be playing bars and clubs. Face it tm owns the ticket biz. Also they can not go after stubhub or tickets now bc congress made it legal for large biusinesses to resell tix. It was called the ticket act. Congress does not consider them scalpers. Scalpers are considerred the peeps on ebay and craigslist or outside the venue. Until we as phans stop buing these tix the poblem will not stop. It wont kill anyone to miss a show. right now stub hub has 6k tickets total for the nye run! If we didnt buy them they would nt go after phish. But all you trustafarians have to add to your stats so go ahead and pay 7k for a floor seat to a rock concert you bunch of rich irresponsible fake heads

kye November 25, 2011, 18:38:09

Cmon Phish cant get around ticket master. They would be playing bars and clubs. Face it tm owns the ticket biz. Also they can not go after stubhub or tickets now bc congress made it legal for large biusinesses to resell tix. It was called the ticket act. Congress does not consider them scalpers. Scalpers are considerred the peeps on ebay and craigslist or outside the venue. Until we as phans stop buing these tix the poblem will not stop. It wont kill anyone to miss a show. right now stub hub has 6k tickets total for the nye run! If we didnt buy them they would nt go after phish. But all you trustafarians have to add to your stats so go ahead and pay 7k for a floor seat to a rock concert you bunch of rich irresponsible fake heads

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