In a cover story for Rolling Stone, Jack White spoke on a variety of topics, the most interesting being his relationship with former White Stripes bandmate Meg White.

“I don’t think anyone talks to Meg. She’s always been a hermit,” White said. “When we lived in Detroit, I’d have to drive over to her house if I wanted to talk to her, so now it’s almost never.”

Despite Meg’s reserved nature, the guitarist also recognized her importance to the band’s sound. “I would often look at her onstage and say, ‘I can’t believe she’s up here.’ I don’t think she understood how important she was to the band, and to me and to music,” he added.

“She was the antithesis of a modern drummer. So childlike and incredible and inspiring. All the not-talking didn’t matter, because onstage? Nothing I do will top that.”