Over ther past few years, Keller Williams has fostered a reputation
as one of the most talented, energetic, and dynamic solo acts in
this or any scene. It is not every day that someone can witness
a performer who has the personality, creativity, and even impecable
juggling skills that Keller does. After a one-hour set at the Berkshire
Mountain Music Festival, this reviewer was hooked beyond belief.
I was fortunate enough to be able to interview Keller Williams at the Khyber
Pass in Philadelphia. Here is what he tells the world;
from what he grooves to and how he loops, and the glue the binds it all
together.
(Hi, Lou!)
ELG: Recently, you have been working with The String Cheese
Incident; performing with them and whatnot. How did this come about?
KW: In '95, I saw them perform in a basement somewhere in
Telluride, right after one of those Bluegrass festivals. I was a fan, and
saw them a few times before actually getting to know them. They needed
an easy opener, so I went on tour with them a few times doing opening
acts. And then, we wound up doing a record together. (Breathe,
1999).
ELG: What was it like to record Breathe?
KW: It was a dream, really. Everyone told me that we weren't
going to get it done in time. We had a lot of time (laughs) - ten days.
But we did get it done. I sent them tapes of songs that I wanted, and
they listened to them. They didn't really learn them, they just
listened to them; and we went in and recorded it and it was done.
ELG: It has been said that Michael Hedges has been a tremendous
influence on you...
KW: Oh yes. When I first heard his music, I was in college in
1988. And his music was so amazing, I just could not believe what I was
hearing. The first time I saw him, I was in awe. I got all his records,
started collecting some bootlegs - and that was hard because he was not
very pro-taping. He was just such a tremendous influence. He gave me
inspiration to pursue the solo thing. I was playing before I'd heard of
him, but he definitely changed my perspective of the genre of solo
entertainment.
ELG: You must have some sort of knowledge by now that the
'jamband scene' is catching on to you. Are you aware of your growing support?
KW: Kinda. I'm aware that the attendance has been slowly getting
larger. Slowly, not by any massive amounts or anything. But the one
thing I have noticed is that for the first 25 minutes of the set
people get quiet. I've played in a number of talkative bars, and
I've noticed that people have been quiet and listening. So I'm really
getting into that.
ELG: I'm quite curious as to how the song "Kidney in a Cooler"
came about.
KW: That's a true story! This happened exactly the way it
happened in the song. It was right before Summer Sessions started, and we
had the day off. We were traveling on Interstate-80, I think, which goes
right through Wyoming. And if you ever go through Wyoming, you'll see
the big billboards for Little America. And it's a big truckstop.
There's one in Wyoming, one in Cheyenne, and one in Flagstaff. And all
of them have 24-hour road services, usually for truckers. And we had a
break in the schedule and we also had a sufficient coolant leak. We
definitely needed to fix it because it was summertime, and we couldn't
have this all leaking, it's super toxic. So we couldn't really go and
wait at a garage somewhere, and we had this guy fix it, at the 24-hour
truck stop. He took his time, and 27 hours later, we rolled out of
there. Two days later on the way down, we broke down, and got towed to a
town called Perry. It was in Oklahoma, just like the song says. And
this woman, a volunteer, was delivering a kidney to Oklahoma City, and
she was broken down. I could just imagine those surgeons, waiting for
her, waiting for this kidney. They told us they couldn't help us out,
because they had to help out this woman. So we were there for a couple
of days. We missed the Dallas show, and the first show of Summer
Sessions because of this. (laughs) I've always wanted a tourbus. A big
old thing, that you can hit golfballs off the roof. Something like
that. It's pretty much a true story.
ELG: I think you've probably figured out by now that "Boob Job"
gets a big rise out of people at your shows. Is David Wilcox (author of
said song) another big influence on you?
KW: He's not as big as other folks, but yes. I went to see him on
a whim at Steamboat, Colorado. I bought that album that he was promoting
- East Asheville Hardware - and I think that's a great album. It's a
super, super record, and it's a great representation of his live show.
ELG: Do you plan on publishing a book of your tunes with correct
tablature? Some of the more uncoordinated folks probably would dig on
the delusion that they can play even a quarter as good as you do...
KW: No, I don't plan on publishing a book, but somewhere down the
road, someone may be able to just tab it out. All the stuff I play is
pretty basic as far as the left-hand goes, as far as chords go, except
for a few variations on chords. Anyone can pretty much find them if they
just take the time and search it out on the neck. But, I think most of
my music comes from my right hand. It's working around the chord.
That's why it may seem a little difficult. But the chords are pretty
simplistic.
ELG: Can you tell me a little bit about the looping gear? For
instance, what is the actual machinery involved, and of course, how does
it work?
KW: It's called a Jam Man by Lexicon. It's an old unit that they
don't make
anymore. I think it is a kind of digital chip. It's kind of like a
delay unit. All I know about it is that I step on the button and I lay
something down, or sing a sound, and then then I step on the button again
and what I just played is continuously looped. Then I step on the same
button to layer something on top of it. And the other button clears it,
totally stops it. It's hard to explain but really easy to use.
ELG: Is there a way you can explain how you go about composing the
looping arrangements?
KW: Well, I pretty much do it to enhance the tunes. The main
reason I do it is because it is fun. I've been playing solo for so many
years. With one vocal and one guitar, you can really either play a
certain market - like background music - or you can play in the folk
world. Or you can be a Hedges type of guy. But what I'm really doing is
acting on the dance vibe. You can only sample for 32 seconds, but I only
need about between 4 and 6 seconds, and then I can layer on top of that.
So I'm basically acting on that dance vibe...(laughs)...what's the
question again?
ELG: Have you considered trying to put together an acoustic
backing group as an experiment? Maybe for one tour, or for a small run of
shows?
KW: Oh yeah. I've thought about it all the time, about trying to
advance it to the next level; seeing where we can go with it with a
band. I always thought it would be really cool. I'm having a great time
just doing the solo thing, instead of having a big crew of sorts. I
thought, though, if I did it, I'd do it with a bass player and a drummer
who are already established. So people would come to the show to hear
the bass player and drummer without really hearing of me. The few people
who know who I am would come to the show, but the rest would come to see
that established rhythm section and some dude. That's what I always
thought it would be like. But as of right now, I don't have any set
plans on that. I'm loving the solo thing. When the Jam Man breaks, I'll
have to hire some musicians. (laughs).
ELG: The next time you make a studio album, how will the looping
techniques affect your approach?
KW: I don't think the looping will be used in the studio. I do
have a new record coming out, called Loop, and it will be out in
between Thanksgiving and Christmas. I'm the only musician on the record,
and it's my fifth record but the first time where it's just me. It will
be the best representation of my shows in the past year. As far as the
studio goes, I can do the same type of thing as the looping through
tracking. You know, just play the whole song on the bass. Play the whole
song on the drums. Whereas in looping, you can play four measures, hit
the button, and it will play continuously. In the studio, you can take
time, and it won't be as monotonous. I'd really like to do a record
with me playing all the
tracks. That's what this live record is, but it's all looped. It's the
same four seconds over and over again for three minutes. It'll be a
different vibe.
ELG: What are your touring plans for the future?
KW: I'll probably be doing my normal loop around the United
States. It's all about the timing. In the future, I want to play in
Europe. I know there's a strong market in Japan that I want to see. I
want to do a train tour. Go to one country, play for a night, then maybe
be a tourist for a day, then hop on a train and go to the next country.
ELG: Anything you'd like to tell the world?
KW: (long silence.) Come and see me!