Acoustic Syndicate
by Bryan Rodgers
Acoustic Syndicate is the New Groove of the month for November. Based in
Shelby, North Carolina, and with three members that have been playing music with each
other since they were 12 years old, this band has been experiencing
out-of-control growth and popularity, particularly this year. Their music is as hard to
describe as an Appalachian sunrise, so infinitely unique and overwhelming that
re-creation by words is next to impossible. This quality has spawned a growing
tape trading community, an unofficial fan website, an email discussion group, and
a rapidly expanding fan base that can't get enough of Syndicate's funky, kinetic
mix of everything.
The current lineup of brothers Fitz and Bryon McMurry (drums and banjo), their
cousin Steve McMurry (main songwriter, guitar), and bassist Jay Sanders (formerly
of Snake Oil Medicine Show) has been together since the release of 1998's
"Tributaries" CD. Before that, Fitz was playing primarily congas and bongos, and
there was another guitar player, Roger Padgett. The lineup has also included a
flute player, Gaines Post, who appeared on "Tributaries" but has since moved on.
The core lineup of banjo, acoustic guitar, upright bass, and drums has allowed
them to blossom into one of the most genre-defying acts touring today.
Previously considered to be bluegrass with various other influences thrown in,
Acoustic Syndicate has proven that they have more in common with The Who than
Bill Monroe, and are finally gaining recognition as one of the most dynamic acts in
the nation. Their music incorporates everything from reggae ("Rainbow Roller
Coaster") to jazz ("Dancing to the Requiem") to straight up rock ("Brown Mountain
Lights"), all with the unique touch of their mostly bluegrass instrumentation,
willingness to experiment, and time-tested vocal harmonies. They also perform a
disparate collection of cover tunes, like "Love is the Seventh Way" by Sting,
"Water of Love" by Dire Straits, and "Squeezebox" by The Who, among many more.
That alone signifies the unmatched, indefinable sound that music fans across the
globe are starting to recognize.
Perhaps the most revered element of their music, besides the frenzied pickin',
is the vocals and lyrics. Steve, Bryon, and Fitz have forged a perfect harmony
style that always amazes listeners. Their lyrics automatically draw you in with
tales of sunny childhood days, vivid daydreams, heartfelt proclamations, and
unmistakable imagery ranging from dark, moonlit peaks to cozy southern towns and
the happenings that surround them. With their estimated (and growing) repertoire
of more than 60 songs, Syndicate tells it all in a style that is irresistible,
thought provoking, and comforting.
The following interview was conducted November 8, 2000, at the Firebelly Lounge
in Wilmington, NC, just before they took the stage for a sold-out show. Members
of the email discussion list submitted most questions.
Why did you start saying "man" instead of "slave" recently in the fan favorite
song "Brown Mountain Lights?
Bryon: That is an old song, and we didn't know how the general populous would
respond to the word "slave", and it is about a Southern planter, which we say in
the song. We just changed it to make sure we don't hurt anybody's feelings or
offend anybody.
Fitz: He still says it sometimes though.
Why doesn't Steve ever play the mandolin anymore?
Bryon: We stay on him to play it, and he has written a new song that features
the mandolin, a very sultry number that we are going to try and work up soon.
Jay: When Roger (Padgett, former guitarist) left the band, we didn't have two
guitar players anymore, and Steve felt like a lot of the body of the sound
disappeared when he would play mandolin. The guitar fills in a lot of rhythmic space
that the mandolin doesn't.
What ever happened to Roger?
Bryon: He's still in our hometown, playing with a band called Tater, and we
still see him quite often. We just wanted to change the direction of the band,
ultimately keeping it a core four-man unit. We certainly like Roger a bunch; he is
a virtuoso guitar player. But the four-man unit works better for us musically
and financially.
Fitz, you used to play congas and percussion. Why did the drum set take the
place of the more basic sound?
Steve kept writing tunes, and we all kept hearing a drum kit in those songs, and
we talked about hiring a drummer. Then I was like, well why don't I just try
it? I like it now, and that's probably the way it's going to stay. I play
percussion, congas and stuff overdubbed in the studio, but live I'm going to stick to
the kit.
Jay, what are some of the ways that playing with Syndicate differs from playing
with Snake Oil Medicine Show?
Jay: I think the basis of it, and I've thought long and hard about it, is the
music that Syndicate plays is more solid and consistent in its nature. The
spirit of creative anarchy that accompanies all Snake Oil music opens up for a lot
more creativity, improvisation, and interpretation, but the direction I needed to
go was a place more consistent with what I wanted to play myself. Plus touring
around with these boys is a lot more sane than with Warpextor Cosmoverse all the
time! You better have your bootstraps and chinstraps buckled when you jump in
a van with Warpextor Cosmoverse! (laughs)
Bryon, what's up with the towel in you banjo resonator?
Bryon: I've achieved a unique sound with a special towel weave. It's called
the Buggle weave, and its based out of San Francisco, and its been out there for a
couple of years now, just like everything else its working its way eastward.
He puts a lot of money into backing me up and everything. It's pretty special
stuff.
Steve: This is special to Bryon too; he's the only person on the east coast
with the Buggle weave (laughs).
What about the all-around road tech and tour bus you want?
Bryon: In all seriousness, a guy that can help you out on the back line, and
keep you running when you start popping strings or whatever, it's a nice thing to
have. Hopefully in the near future. We've got some folks in mind that we might
try to hire on. As far as tour buses, we'll just have to wait and see.
Jay: I think it's very important that the tech is extremely fluent in the
Buggle weave, because if something were to happen to the towel, we'd be in trouble.
Steve, do you ever foresee switching to or incorporating electric guitar?
Steve: No. Not with the sound that we want.
Who is one of your biggest inspirations, musically or otherwise?
Steve: Ry Cooder.
Jay: John Hartford.
Bryon: Tony Trishcka.
What musicians have you played with that stand out as special, and which
musicians would you like to play with in the future.
Steve: Sam Bush (mandolinist) definitely. We played with him at Merlefest last
year, and he's played on our albums.
Bryon: Curtis Burch (guitarist) is always a lot of fun. Tony Trishcka's
awesome. In the future, maybe Pete Townsend, and while we're reaching for the stars,
I'd say Sting. I'm a big Police fan.
Jay: Joe Craven (violinist). It was mind blowing to see the fluidity with
which he played, when you're used to seeing him beating on some hand drums. In the
future I'd say Bill Frisell.
What was your inspiration for writing "Marie St. Laureate"?
Steve: That comes from a recent flood of memories I had. In 1986 I spent two
months in Haiti on a building mission sponsored by some businessmen in Charlotte
and by the Western North Carolina Builders Conference. It was a very
eye-opening, culturally shocking experience, and I kind of lost that whole memory, and for
some reason about three months ago I was thinking about something completely
unrelated and a whole rush of memories came back to me. Fifteen minutes later I
had a song. It was easy, it was one of those gifts of God that falls out of the
sky sometimes, you know, five or ten minutes worth of writing and you've got
yourself a pretty good tune.
Have you ever considered forming a formal fan club?
Steve: Well, I've got my own opinions on that, so someone else can take the
question if they want to. (pauses) To me, it just seems a bit presumptuous and a
tad cheesy, just personally. If somebody wants to do it, I wouldn't stand in
their way or anything, it just seems a little presumptuous, the fact that people
think enough of themselves to organize themselves a fan club.
Fitz: We would encourage the fans to do that though.
Will your next CD be the long-awaited live release?
Steve: No, not the next one, but we are going to do a live CD.
Jay: We were working on doing a "Live at Green Acres" CD, but that's going to
be a hard thing to call at this point. We're all very proud, honored, and
privileged to be a part of the history of Green Acres, but the population thing you
were talking about a few minutes ago has gotten a little hard to handle, so we'll
have to reevaluate the way to go about doing it if we do decide to do it. But
that would definitely be a dream.
How does keeping those harmonies so tight affect your voices? Do you shred your
vocal cords?
Steve: (laughs) I do, almost on a daily basis. It depends on what room,
sometimes the bars are real smoky, or if it's cold outside, but we are trying to
design our music so it's a little less stressful. We sort of have to scream at the
top of our lungs every night, and I don't know how long it's going to last, but
so far we're doing pretty well.
Bryon: I really have to concentrate keeping my pitch right in general, but it
seems like in smoky situations, especially on consecutive nights, it gets kind of
rough on the vocal cords.
With the whole overpopulation of your nearest, dearest venue, Green Acres, you
guys are growing at an incredibly fast rate. How do you feel about moving into
bigger venues that can hold all your fans?
Steve: Bigger venues are the key issue. We've been playing small gigs like
this since 1995, one barroom after another, so its kind of refreshing and a bit of
a relief to have to move to the bigger venues. Plus we get done a lot earlier
and get to bed at 12 instead of 5!
Where do you dream of playing?
Steve: Austin City Limits. I've been watching that since I was a teenager.
Overall, their selection and taste in music is really what I like. I made myself
a promise that before I die or they go off the air, I'm going to play Austin
City Limits!
Jay: I feel very lucky to have played at a lot of the places I've played, but
there are some festivals, like the New Orleans Jazz and Heritage Festival, Oregon
County Fair, I would love to participate in those experiences. My favorite
room is the Down Home in Johnston City, Tennessee. It's considered among the top
ten acoustic music venues in the country. It's a small little wooden room with a
great vibe and nice people.
Bryon: I'm kind of like Jay, a lot of these places are starting to come around
for us, like I think we're going to play the Telluride Bluegrass Festival in
2001, and Red Rocks would be really cool.
What's the single most fun experience you've ever had playing?
Steve: Well, I can think of a couple I'd like to do over! Replace, you know!
But they're all fun, man. I can think of a few milestones, but for me they're
all fun.
Bryon: I had a real good time at the Plaza show at Merlefest.
Jay: I have to agree with Steve, I can't really put my finger on one, but the
Tributaries CD release party at Green Acres was the first time I played with the
band.
How do you feel that the Home Grown Music Network has helped you?
Steve: I know for a fact that Home Grown works their email better than anyone
I've ever seen, and I'm on the list so I know when the mail goes out, and they
don't discriminate at all about what information comes in. They are ready to turn
around and give the info to everyone in their organization, whether it be
electronic or otherwise, but they are very good about keeping people informed of
what's happening, you know, new radio stations, new venues, new publications that
come out, and anything that may be advantageous to the people in the organization.
They pump the info out very regularly, and I appreciate that.
Bryon: We have a good many people that buy their CDs from Home Grown, and it's
amazing how fast they get them. I know one guy that got his the day after he
ordered. Pretty impressive.
Back when you first started playing music at age 12, did you ever dream you
might be doing it for a living?
Steve: Well, you always kind of hope that maybe one day it might work out that
way, and I always kind of felt like it would, although I wouldn't give it any
consideration as far as my immediate plans. When I looked to the future, it was
always about getting a job, and a place to live, and the music never really
figured into it until about 6 years ago. It's just been an evolutionary process.
Jay: I grew up in Nashville, surrounded by friends and family who were already
musicians. One time Jay Krekel told me to never ever become a musician, and I
made up my mind that that's exactly what I wanted to do.
Bryon: I didn't honestly think we would be doing it for a living, when we were
the Mint Jubilee Blues Band, before Acoustic Syndicate! We had all started
careers; it just started out as a fun kind of thing. When we were kids, we'd play
all the time, then Steve was living in a different town, and it didn't really
come back together until I was in college, in about 1992.
One last question, what's your favorite beer?
Bryon: One of the Sammy Smith Ales I'd have to say.
Jay: Guinness for quality, Budweiser for quantity.
Steve: Same here!
Check out their website at acousticsyndicate.com